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Re: Rhino Boxset
(Reply #22 on: 09/15/09 at 17:45:19) |
 
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on 09/15/09 at 11:23:57, RCwriter wrote:
Regarding the Lafayette Music Room recordings...I went through them when writing my book about Radio City for the 33 1/3 series. There were a total of 36 songs performed over the two nights. Most of the songs were performed twice and I'm sure Rhino decided to take the best take when there were two performances. The songs performed only once were Don't Lie To Me, Hot Burrito #2, I Got Kinda Lost, There Was A Light, ST100/6, Try Again, Watch The Sunrise, and Come On Now (Kinks tune). There was a lot of dead space (band just tuning up, changing instruments etc.) between songs, often running longer than a minute, so it would have been pretty boring to include that all (maybe save it for a Having Fun with Big Star On Stage collection). What's really interesting in listening to the unedited performances is that is literally NO reaction to the band between songs. Maybe one person clapping. Mostly just the sound of glasses clinking and general chatter. You've all heard various people associated with Big Star that no one in Memphis really cared about them. Well, you can really (not) hear it on the tapes. (I won't be getting the box until tomorrow but will report back with my impression of how they put together the live disc.)
Regarding the documentary...having spoken with the people involved, my impression is that the lack of live footage (i.e. none) of the band is a big stumbling block. Alex told me when I interviewed him for the book that the only footage he was aware of was a sequence a local news crew shot when the original line-up played a festival near New Orleans. They were the first band on and the crew was eager to get some footage for the evening news and get out. The band was back at their hotel in time to see the clip but given the cost and effort involved in preserving tape, it's almost certainly long gone.
Any related questions, I'd be happy to try to answer them. Bruce Eaton
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what about the footage Rob Jovanovic describes in his book - the footage Chris and or Andy shot of them making #1 Record in the studio? Logged
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Re: Rhino Boxset
(Reply #25 on: 09/22/09 at 12:18:40) |
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on 09/20/09 at 18:35:36, ronbo11 wrote:
I don't know how much unreleased stuff was left off the box set, but there were enough new songs (to me) and alternate takes to please me. Of course if the box set was just that, it might have only been 2 + the live set (which I enjoyed much more than the audience).
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see this post for an idea of what could've been included: http://www.frontlinearts.com/cgi-bin/bsrboard/bsrboard.cgi?board=general&action=display&num=1210356022
on 09/20/09 at 18:35:36, ronbo11 wrote:
I agree the compilers were trying to tell the whole Big Story city and it's a pretty good representation of the band IMHO.
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I don't see the point in telling the story via previously released BS tracks as the compilers have done here.
Who are they marketing this to - BS fans or mom looking to buy a christmas present for her 35 year old son still living at home in the basement and dreaming of playing lead guitar for some imaginary band?
BS fans will buy this set regardless - we don't need a primer to remind us of who's who and what's what. We already own at least 3 or 4 different versions of #1 Record/Radio City (Line, Fantasy, Fantasy remaster, Akarma releases, HDCD Fantasy version - etc....)
The casual music fan strolling down the aisle at K-mart looking for Night Ranger's greatest hits is not going to stumble on this BS box set and say to himself 'hey - who are these guys? - I think I'll buy this and find out'.
At close to $60 - this is not an impulse buy price - this is for the fan already in the know.
Me personally - I already know it (the story) pretty well as I've been a fan since 1995 and really delved into them.
So the 'telling of the story' is neither here nor there for me in terms of including already released tracks in this box set.
My gripes are:
1) previously released studio tracks - we have these already
2) previously released alternate studios tracks - as fans we already have the 'Thank You Friends - 2CD' with these exact same tracks
3) The 45" single mix of 'In The Street' is not the same as the real vinyl version. I have the vinyl version and the mixes aren't quite the same.
Long story short - include the 'real' original mixes.
4) I think the 1st disc should've been a pre-Big Star track sequence featuring the tracks of Chris Bell's high school band 'The Jynx', some AC solo material post Box Tops, Chris Bell with Terry Manning, Rock City/Icewater outtakes etc.
5) the live disc - I'm not excited that the compilers edited/compiled the 'best performances' from the few sets BS played at the Rock Writers convention into 1 seemingly complete BS concert.
I understand that there was alot of dead space in between songs and what-not - I'm just a purist who would've liked to have the show in a more honest raw form - like giving you the idea of being there.
6) There really needed to be a DVD included in this box set.
Rob Jovanovic describes that Andy and Chris filmed alot of the #1 Record recording sessions - tho the audio is silent. A sound collage of studio chatter and alternate takes could've been created to make a new soundtrack to the silent footage.
And there is more silent video footage of the band besides the studio shots as evidenced in the 'Thank You Friends' video montage included on a DVD in 2008 in some obscure magazine no one ever buys.
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